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		<title>By: Mourinho, Real Madrid, and Material Myths</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mourinho, Real Madrid, and Material Myths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a season where Pellegrini imposed an athletic attacking style and obtained a record number of wins and points, only one statistic mattered &#8211; how goo was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mourinho&#8217;s Masterpiece Puts Barca in a Leonard Cohen Sort of Mood - Zach Dundas - Renegade Sportsman - True/Slant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mourinho&#8217;s Masterpiece Puts Barca in a Leonard Cohen Sort of Mood - Zach Dundas - Renegade Sportsman - True/Slant</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] aside from Puyol) style of play and Muppet-like creative superstars, allows us all—to quote a recent Run of Play musing about the Other Place—to &#8220;stand up abruptly and spill that latte all over our designer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Inter v. Barcelona Preview: Buy the Hype!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inter v. Barcelona Preview: Buy the Hype!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: karachikhatmal</title>
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		<dc:creator>karachikhatmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8954&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ursus arctos &lt;/a&gt; 

this blog comment board is like stumbling into plato&#039;s Academy&#039;s sports fans department - the level of intellect here is ridiculous. but mr. arctos, going from pre-shot clock basketball to cow corner - you sir are probably a malfunction of the matrix...

two small things i wanted to add here.

its true that the galactico style is very asphyxiating for a manger, but vincente del bosque really took it to a sublime level. even that side was nothing like the barca side of now, but they seemed to have 7 players all constantly looking for madcap adventures in the opposition half. the center backs were inevitably atrocious, and so casillas would have to be glorious, which he was. and of course there was makelele. it was a very different team, but a joy to watch. 

secondly, a lot of madrid&#039;s problems in the last two years have been due to this resignation that they can not beat this barca side. the closest games out of the past four clasicos have involved madrid defending with the paranoia of a pothead, but suffering from the stoner&#039;s lack of motivation when it came to attacking. ronaldo&#039;s disoriented forays into nowheresville seemed to epitomize that. i believe it is possible for madrid to use their &#039;in the moment&#039; style to take on barca, but before the tactics work there has to be belief. all we have seen so far are mixtures of nervous posturing and stoic cynicism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href='http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8954' rel="nofollow">ursus arctos </a> </p>
<p>this blog comment board is like stumbling into plato&#8217;s Academy&#8217;s sports fans department &#8211; the level of intellect here is ridiculous. but mr. arctos, going from pre-shot clock basketball to cow corner &#8211; you sir are probably a malfunction of the matrix&#8230;</p>
<p>two small things i wanted to add here.</p>
<p>its true that the galactico style is very asphyxiating for a manger, but vincente del bosque really took it to a sublime level. even that side was nothing like the barca side of now, but they seemed to have 7 players all constantly looking for madcap adventures in the opposition half. the center backs were inevitably atrocious, and so casillas would have to be glorious, which he was. and of course there was makelele. it was a very different team, but a joy to watch. </p>
<p>secondly, a lot of madrid&#8217;s problems in the last two years have been due to this resignation that they can not beat this barca side. the closest games out of the past four clasicos have involved madrid defending with the paranoia of a pothead, but suffering from the stoner&#8217;s lack of motivation when it came to attacking. ronaldo&#8217;s disoriented forays into nowheresville seemed to epitomize that. i believe it is possible for madrid to use their &#8216;in the moment&#8217; style to take on barca, but before the tactics work there has to be belief. all we have seen so far are mixtures of nervous posturing and stoic cynicism.</p>
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		<title>By: stowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>stowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ashley Cole stuck to Messi like glue&quot;, I don&#039;t think Cole played in those games. I&#039;m pretty sure that Messi was guarded by a right-footed defender so that he could tackle Messi&#039;s left with his dominant right foot.

The tempo analogy is a good comparison, but I think that Barcelona presses more than any other team so there are slight differences.

The biggest difference for me when comparing basketball and football are what make them beautiful. When I play basketball, it is easy to keep possession, you are holding the ball in your HANDS. Scoring is easy, so teams won&#039;t defend outside the three point line. So if you just pass the ball around the outside of the defense, basketball is boring, so Run and Gun basketball is exciting, because it&#039;s fast, there&#039;s lots of scoring, and it&#039;s difficult to pass through and over defenders. 
Possession is hard in football, because you are using your FEET. So the ball is easier to steal and scoring is harder. So when a team can possess the ball and make the team chase them, it is very interesting and beautiful. I&#039;m guessing it would be similar to playing only inside the 3pt line once you enter it and having to dribble the whole time and once you stopped dribbling you have 1 second to pass the ball or it&#039;s a turnover.
I will agree that fast tempo-ed football can be very beautiful because Brazil makes it beautiful and Arsenal did to (when they were winning everything). But when teams just kick the ball into space and let a fast guy chase it, it can get boring sometimes. I mean, that&#039;s what I do when I play football, and I suck. So teams that play one touch and keep the ball, they amaze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ashley Cole stuck to Messi like glue&#8221;, I don&#8217;t think Cole played in those games. I&#8217;m pretty sure that Messi was guarded by a right-footed defender so that he could tackle Messi&#8217;s left with his dominant right foot.</p>
<p>The tempo analogy is a good comparison, but I think that Barcelona presses more than any other team so there are slight differences.</p>
<p>The biggest difference for me when comparing basketball and football are what make them beautiful. When I play basketball, it is easy to keep possession, you are holding the ball in your HANDS. Scoring is easy, so teams won&#8217;t defend outside the three point line. So if you just pass the ball around the outside of the defense, basketball is boring, so Run and Gun basketball is exciting, because it&#8217;s fast, there&#8217;s lots of scoring, and it&#8217;s difficult to pass through and over defenders.<br />
Possession is hard in football, because you are using your FEET. So the ball is easier to steal and scoring is harder. So when a team can possess the ball and make the team chase them, it is very interesting and beautiful. I&#8217;m guessing it would be similar to playing only inside the 3pt line once you enter it and having to dribble the whole time and once you stopped dribbling you have 1 second to pass the ball or it&#8217;s a turnover.<br />
I will agree that fast tempo-ed football can be very beautiful because Brazil makes it beautiful and Arsenal did to (when they were winning everything). But when teams just kick the ball into space and let a fast guy chase it, it can get boring sometimes. I mean, that&#8217;s what I do when I play football, and I suck. So teams that play one touch and keep the ball, they amaze me.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8955&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian Phillips &lt;/a&gt; (and @Elliot) I don&#039;t disagree with the characterization of the Barca fan (which I&#039;m not, other than in the sense of a generalized appreciation for the team&#039;s talent), but with the presentation of Madrid as an antithesis or antidote to a perceived flaw in the psyche of the Barca fan.  But the comment was intended to be -- and maybe didn&#039;t come across this way -- lighthearted, because I enjoy all the rambling about the Barca-Madrid dichotomy (both here and elsewhere), and I can appreciate that discussions are no fun without dichotomies, even (particularly?) when they&#039;re imperfect.

Also: the new layout is fantastic.

@Elliot says &quot;I am attacking the the current media monopoly of philosophical hegemony that their style of play is the apex of “beauty.”&quot;

(After explaining that I was trying to be lighthearted, I&#039;ll now disprove myself.)  That&#039;s exactly what I found ironic -- Madrid is, in intent, actually quite similar to Barca, in wanting to be at (or having the fan expectation that it should be at) an &quot;apex of beauty&quot;.  If you want an antithesis to that aspect of Barca/Barca fan psychology, you don&#039;t want Madrid -- where to win is not enough, one must win with style -- you want &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orange.co.uk/images/editorial/pompey-fan.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt;, who couldn&#039;t care less how the ball ended up in the back of the net, so long as it does so on the correct end of the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href='http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8955' rel="nofollow">Brian Phillips </a> (and @Elliot) I don&#8217;t disagree with the characterization of the Barca fan (which I&#8217;m not, other than in the sense of a generalized appreciation for the team&#8217;s talent), but with the presentation of Madrid as an antithesis or antidote to a perceived flaw in the psyche of the Barca fan.  But the comment was intended to be &#8212; and maybe didn&#8217;t come across this way &#8212; lighthearted, because I enjoy all the rambling about the Barca-Madrid dichotomy (both here and elsewhere), and I can appreciate that discussions are no fun without dichotomies, even (particularly?) when they&#8217;re imperfect.</p>
<p>Also: the new layout is fantastic.</p>
<p>@Elliot says &#8220;I am attacking the the current media monopoly of philosophical hegemony that their style of play is the apex of “beauty.”&#8221;</p>
<p>(After explaining that I was trying to be lighthearted, I&#8217;ll now disprove myself.)  That&#8217;s exactly what I found ironic &#8212; Madrid is, in intent, actually quite similar to Barca, in wanting to be at (or having the fan expectation that it should be at) an &#8220;apex of beauty&#8221;.  If you want an antithesis to that aspect of Barca/Barca fan psychology, you don&#8217;t want Madrid &#8212; where to win is not enough, one must win with style &#8212; you want <a href="http://www.orange.co.uk/images/editorial/pompey-fan.jpg" rel="nofollow">this guy</a>, who couldn&#8217;t care less how the ball ended up in the back of the net, so long as it does so on the correct end of the field.</p>
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		<title>By: ursus arctos</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursus arctos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8958&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elliott &lt;/a&gt; Channeling Florentino again, eh?

You might consider examining your relationship with the club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href='http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8958' rel="nofollow">Elliott </a> Channeling Florentino again, eh?</p>
<p>You might consider examining your relationship with the club.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8952&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rob &lt;/a&gt; I definitely get your point on the recent preposterous transfer fees, but Barcelona&#039;s wages really are not so far from Real Madrid&#039;s. I also am not attacking Barcelona&#039;s style/players/coaches - I am attacking the the current media monopoly of philosophical hegemony that their style of play is the apex of &quot;beauty.&quot; 

@a quarterback is another useful term! 

I am trying not to get too ad hominem here - I did write a part of this piece while at Starbuck&#039;s, but I was drinking a hot cocoa and not watching Barcelona. I also already completed my grad degree. Thus, I am better than the rest of you. ALL OF YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href='http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8952' rel="nofollow">rob </a> I definitely get your point on the recent preposterous transfer fees, but Barcelona&#8217;s wages really are not so far from Real Madrid&#8217;s. I also am not attacking Barcelona&#8217;s style/players/coaches &#8211; I am attacking the the current media monopoly of philosophical hegemony that their style of play is the apex of &#8220;beauty.&#8221; </p>
<p>@a quarterback is another useful term! </p>
<p>I am trying not to get too ad hominem here &#8211; I did write a part of this piece while at Starbuck&#8217;s, but I was drinking a hot cocoa and not watching Barcelona. I also already completed my grad degree. Thus, I am better than the rest of you. ALL OF YOU.</p>
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		<title>By: A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8924&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Elliott &lt;/a&gt; 

I always thought of Guardiola and his successors in the Barca midfield, such as Xavi, as the quarter-back equivalent of Soccer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href='http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8924' rel="nofollow">Elliott </a> </p>
<p>I always thought of Guardiola and his successors in the Barca midfield, such as Xavi, as the quarter-back equivalent of Soccer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8954&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ursus arctos &lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve heard the Am Stud department at Berkeley is nuts for Partick Thistle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href='http://www.runofplay.com/2010/04/13/pulling-back-the-curtain-on-the-wizard-of-real-madrid/#comment-8954' rel="nofollow">ursus arctos </a> I&#8217;ve heard the Am Stud department at Berkeley is nuts for Partick Thistle.</p>
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