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		<title>By: Reading list: Why write about football, a tactical resource, and vintage Barcelona critics &#124; The Fantastic Futbol Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.runofplay.com/2009/04/28/barcelona-0-0-chelsea-doubt-chance-and-mutability/#comment-16449</link>
		<dc:creator>Reading list: Why write about football, a tactical resource, and vintage Barcelona critics &#124; The Fantastic Futbol Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barcelona 0-0 Chelsea: Doubt, Chance, and Mutability (April 28, 2009) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sunday Selection #3 &#171; Across The Synapse</title>
		<link>http://www.runofplay.com/2009/04/28/barcelona-0-0-chelsea-doubt-chance-and-mutability/#comment-10947</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Selection #3 &#171; Across The Synapse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] series on Barcelona vs Chelsea in the Champions League in 2009 (The first game, The aftermath, The second game, The ensuing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ballet of Frost - The Run of Play</title>
		<link>http://www.runofplay.com/2009/04/28/barcelona-0-0-chelsea-doubt-chance-and-mutability/#comment-10318</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballet of Frost - The Run of Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barcelona and Chelsea, when Chelsea axed Barça down to the tune of a 0-0 draw at the Camp Nou, I started wondering whether a Barça team that had been sighed over by every fan on earth was really the historic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Barcelona and Chelsea, when Chelsea axed Barça down to the tune of a 0-0 draw at the Camp Nou, I started wondering whether a Barça team that had been sighed over by every fan on earth was really the historic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WHAT BARCELONA - CHELSEA MEANS &#124; Footsmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHAT BARCELONA - CHELSEA MEANS &#124; Footsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] form of language. As Brian Phillips suggests, Barcelona could easily represent some effusive romantic poetry. Like Shelley or Keats, they are at once visual and sensual and mysterious. If this is true, then [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] form of language. As Brian Phillips suggests, Barcelona could easily represent some effusive romantic poetry. Like Shelley or Keats, they are at once visual and sensual and mysterious. If this is true, then [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul_Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul_Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, a masterful post. But, what I&#039;m most taking away is from George&#039;s first comment: &quot;watching Liverpool is like getting raped in prison.&quot;

That may be a paraphrase, rather than a direct quote, though, it could provide quite a bit of inspiration to the writers and producers of Green Street 3. Fortunately, if the need to maintain the level of believability thus far established by the series requires a London-based rival, Chelsea would make an unimpeachable stand-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, a masterful post. But, what I&#8217;m most taking away is from George&#8217;s first comment: &#8220;watching Liverpool is like getting raped in prison.&#8221;</p>
<p>That may be a paraphrase, rather than a direct quote, though, it could provide quite a bit of inspiration to the writers and producers of Green Street 3. Fortunately, if the need to maintain the level of believability thus far established by the series requires a London-based rival, Chelsea would make an unimpeachable stand-in.</p>
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		<title>By: Barcelona and the Idea of the Beautiful Game - The Run of Play</title>
		<link>http://www.runofplay.com/2009/04/28/barcelona-0-0-chelsea-doubt-chance-and-mutability/#comment-5341</link>
		<dc:creator>Barcelona and the Idea of the Beautiful Game - The Run of Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to think &quot;Oh, but&#8230;&quot; In any case, here are a couple of further thoughts to go with the criticism of Barça I wrote in the minutes after the Chelsea [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barcelona; forged in a spirit of defiance toward Franco&#039;s facist regime and his favoured Real Madrid, owned and run by the supporters, commited to playing beautiful football, champion Unicef over a big money shirt deal, have a long tradition of producing world class youngsters. Vs. Chelsea; largely a second rate team for a century until ubercrook Abramovich invested money he had enveigled from Russian state infrastructure into a vulgar, vanity project, no class, little history, no flair. A disgrace. Come on Barca!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barcelona; forged in a spirit of defiance toward Franco&#8217;s facist regime and his favoured Real Madrid, owned and run by the supporters, commited to playing beautiful football, champion Unicef over a big money shirt deal, have a long tradition of producing world class youngsters. Vs. Chelsea; largely a second rate team for a century until ubercrook Abramovich invested money he had enveigled from Russian state infrastructure into a vulgar, vanity project, no class, little history, no flair. A disgrace. Come on Barca!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This may sound crazy, but I actually think Messi has a better chance against Cole than against Bosingwa.&quot;

I wholeheartedly agree. However, if Chelsea put 9 in front of the ball, it won&#039;t matter who&#039;s at left-back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This may sound crazy, but I actually think Messi has a better chance against Cole than against Bosingwa.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree. However, if Chelsea put 9 in front of the ball, it won&#8217;t matter who&#8217;s at left-back.</p>
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		<title>By: joao</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You alluded to it on your post, but i think that FC Barcelona is trapped in its on rethoric of moral cause.

Unlike Real Madrid, FC Barcelona carries with him the weight of the morality it wants to embody.

Winning becomes less important, because it is important to win in the &quot;right way&quot;. In Madrid, winning is the ultimate goal. The club exists to win. In that view, their phisical attacks on Messi, though reprehensible, are &quot;justified&quot; by that higher imperitive. In Barcelona, a century of (percieved and real) persecution created a pathos of a football club that is the embodiement of a cultural demonstration. As such, form is as important as result. The utilitarian form is abandoned in favour of surrealism. The dreamed shape is the archetype. 

Living with this standard is extremely difficult, in every walk of life. It is also, for lack of a better word, arrogant. Arrogant because it devalues the &quot;loss&quot; as a failure of morality, in the same sense that plato talks of &quot;Beauty&quot; as grounds for moral superiority. 

That is why, as the FC Barcelona teams approach their ideological conclusion, i find myself more drawn to the concrete thinking of the Real Madrid model, and their utilitarian approach. It becomes easier to relate to a team that simply plays the game as a game, and not as philosophical panflet (though in reality doing it, by acting as propaganda of a dominant centripetal force exerced by the &quot;Spanish&quot; establishment as oposed to the &quot;Catalan&quot; independentist machinations.

This all becomes apparent in the analisis of both teams performance in the various encarnations of the European Cups.

Both had (most of) the best players ever. From the Di Stefano&#039;s, Gento&#039;s, Kubala&#039;s to the Zidane&#039;s, Ronaldinho&#039;s and Iniesta&#039;s, of the mordern eras, they were blessed with the biggest talent the world had to offer in terms of footballing traditions. However, in Madrid, great players were recruited with the sole objective of creating the best footballing side, with view to winning, and winning they did, specially in Europe, where the need for adaptation is greater than in the more secluded surroundings of La Liga. In Barcelona, teams are designed to be a demonstration of their philosophical motivations, and therefore, the mutating nature of the european game becomes more dificult to accept and to juggle without breaking the designed model. In their illustrious history, they won the European Cup a grand total of 2 times. Both with teams that were percieved to be &quot;Dream Teams&quot;. The Cruyff model, with Koeman, Stoichkov and Guardiola as center players, and the Ronaldinho side, with the mentioned brasilian, Xavi, Messi and Eto&#039;o as the leading performers. For Barcelona, winning the title as Real Madrid won, in the Capelo years, or the Champions League with Jupp Heynkes or Vicente Del Bosque (in 2000) is a no-win, because it is a negation of its Ethos.

As such, FC Barcelona will take the scoreline of this game and accept it for what it is. A moral injustice that has a chance to be corrected in London. Such is their origin and destiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You alluded to it on your post, but i think that FC Barcelona is trapped in its on rethoric of moral cause.</p>
<p>Unlike Real Madrid, FC Barcelona carries with him the weight of the morality it wants to embody.</p>
<p>Winning becomes less important, because it is important to win in the &#8220;right way&#8221;. In Madrid, winning is the ultimate goal. The club exists to win. In that view, their phisical attacks on Messi, though reprehensible, are &#8220;justified&#8221; by that higher imperitive. In Barcelona, a century of (percieved and real) persecution created a pathos of a football club that is the embodiement of a cultural demonstration. As such, form is as important as result. The utilitarian form is abandoned in favour of surrealism. The dreamed shape is the archetype. </p>
<p>Living with this standard is extremely difficult, in every walk of life. It is also, for lack of a better word, arrogant. Arrogant because it devalues the &#8220;loss&#8221; as a failure of morality, in the same sense that plato talks of &#8220;Beauty&#8221; as grounds for moral superiority. </p>
<p>That is why, as the FC Barcelona teams approach their ideological conclusion, i find myself more drawn to the concrete thinking of the Real Madrid model, and their utilitarian approach. It becomes easier to relate to a team that simply plays the game as a game, and not as philosophical panflet (though in reality doing it, by acting as propaganda of a dominant centripetal force exerced by the &#8220;Spanish&#8221; establishment as oposed to the &#8220;Catalan&#8221; independentist machinations.</p>
<p>This all becomes apparent in the analisis of both teams performance in the various encarnations of the European Cups.</p>
<p>Both had (most of) the best players ever. From the Di Stefano&#8217;s, Gento&#8217;s, Kubala&#8217;s to the Zidane&#8217;s, Ronaldinho&#8217;s and Iniesta&#8217;s, of the mordern eras, they were blessed with the biggest talent the world had to offer in terms of footballing traditions. However, in Madrid, great players were recruited with the sole objective of creating the best footballing side, with view to winning, and winning they did, specially in Europe, where the need for adaptation is greater than in the more secluded surroundings of La Liga. In Barcelona, teams are designed to be a demonstration of their philosophical motivations, and therefore, the mutating nature of the european game becomes more dificult to accept and to juggle without breaking the designed model. In their illustrious history, they won the European Cup a grand total of 2 times. Both with teams that were percieved to be &#8220;Dream Teams&#8221;. The Cruyff model, with Koeman, Stoichkov and Guardiola as center players, and the Ronaldinho side, with the mentioned brasilian, Xavi, Messi and Eto&#8217;o as the leading performers. For Barcelona, winning the title as Real Madrid won, in the Capelo years, or the Champions League with Jupp Heynkes or Vicente Del Bosque (in 2000) is a no-win, because it is a negation of its Ethos.</p>
<p>As such, FC Barcelona will take the scoreline of this game and accept it for what it is. A moral injustice that has a chance to be corrected in London. Such is their origin and destiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may sound crazy, but I actually think Messi has a better chance against Cole than against Bosingwa.</description>
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